BLACK LIVES MATTER (feat. Tina Zaman, Dalara Williams, Esky) - The Cheatcoders Podcast

Episode 120

Published on:

9th Jun 2020

BLACK LIVES MATTER (feat. Tina Zaman, Dalara Williams, Esky)

We would like to firstly give a trigger warning for this episode - The discussion (beginning 00:27:45) contains topics and concepts that some listeners may find distressing. 


Cheatmail - The Cheatcoders answers questions from listeners

(00:01:45) "do you think music albums will be obsolete in the future? why? and if so, what do you think will be the new body of work" 


(00:09:15) "considering we are mid-way through the year, how do you think 2020 will be talked about in history lessons in 2100?" 




The boys discuss the TV series "Atlanta" and "Dave" created by Donald Glover and Dave "Lil' Dicky" Burd. 



Don shamefully has not yet seen the award winning movie, "parasite". Raf and Natz give their best pitches to convince Don to watch it. 


Guest Segment


Trigger Warning: This discussion contains topics and concepts that some listeners may find distressing. 

The Cheatcoders sit down with other creatives of colour to discuss the Black Lives Matter movement and the issue of Aboriginal deaths in custody. They touch on the history of discrimination & oppression of Black Americans and of Indigenous Australians.

There is no denying that racism still exists and the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police officers has shone a light on an injustice that has been present for hundreds of years. Similarly the mistreatment of Indigenous Australians is an issue that requires more awareness and change.

In our technological world, we have access to more information and we are more connected than ever before. There are many ways that we can stand alongside our Black American and Indigenous Australian brothers and sisters. The group discuss the need for us to be willing to research, have difficult conversations, and learn. Change won't happen overnight, but we have a responsibility to make sure that there is change. 

Guest Links

* Tina Zaman - Teacher, Comedian & Creator of Tight 5 Comedy

* Tight 5 Comedy - Sydney-based live comedy show company providing a platform for and amplifying the voices of comedians of colour.

* Dalara Williams - Indigenous Australian Actress & Writer - Wiradjuri/Gumbaynggirr

RGM Artist

* Ian "Esky" Escandor - Sydney Based Artist & Entrepreneur

Links for Research and Donations

* Black Lives Matter Movement

* Reconciliation Australia


Indigenous Publications

* National Indigenous Television

* Koori Radio 93.7FM






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About your hosts

Don Doing Stuff

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Don was brought onto the Cheatcoders team after starting his own podcast in Singapore. Initially bringing him on as a guest, he refused to leave.
He built a creative career as a singer and musician. In the early 2000s, he co-founded "Soul Good" which was built to showcase the music of local artists and musicians.
Don continues to advocate for local creatives and entrepreneurs, seeking to grow the culture and community.

Raf Flores

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Raf Flores has a decade experience in producing videos from planning, production to editing. Understanding the importance of the connection between the art and it’s audience, Raf aims to carefully work with his clients to ensure the best process and style necessary is executed to produce the best content to showcase towards the target audience.

Expanding his skills, Raf began podcasting with The Cheatcoders Podcast, allowing him to further understand the community of creatives in his local area and use his research and conversations to improve his business and art. With years of podcast experience under his name, Raf aims to help others start their own podcast journey and tell their stories.

Natz Blazin

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Natz started the Cheatcoders with Raf in late 2017 as a means to improve his communication skills and fear of public speaking. Natz was immediately drawn to the podcast medium which sparked a new creative outlet after years of feeling stuck in a rut, predominantly in his time as a recording artist and the leader of Hip-hop collective 'Round Circle', a group of vocalists, DJ's and producers based in Sydney Australia. Natz's true passion has always been around business, notably taken from his mother who has built multiple ventures in her time and even up until this day. Often labelled as 'the wildcard' due to his impulsive nature, an interest-based nervous system and a Ferrari engine brain paired with bicycle breaks, Natz has managed to barely navigate through life but also has it credited to much of his success. In the last (but not final) whim of impulsivity, Natz moved to London only a couple of months after starting the Podcast, where Raf and 'soon to join' Don all agreed to continue as a means to stay connected and be inspired.